So I have to admit, I don't use one of the most powerful pieces of gear in the codex for one reason. Nobody can agree on how it works. It seems GW only ever tells us what we already know, and was hoping when the 5th Edition FAQ came out, that they'd solve this one as well as the Reaver two handed issue.
So here's a quick review of the one line that screws the whole thing up. "It may be activated by the model carrying it in the shooting phase, instead of moving or shooting that turn." Combine the wording with the fact that old fleet of foot indicates that you can move in the shooting phase and it causes confusion.
Since that one sentence uses phase and turn, with phase coming first, you read it as 'in the shooting phase, instead of moving or shooting', it's common for GW to mess up terminoligy like phase and turn, especially in the old books. However, the other way of looking at it is that the comma is seperating the thoughs, so we could re-arrange it as 'Instead of moving or shooting that turn, it may be activated in the shooting phase'.
The conventional wisdom has been, because it says turn, you have to leave your unit standing out in the open. When I read it, I read it as activated in the shooting phase instead of moving or shooting, but I understand the conventional wisdom. But where I get irked is that same logic doesn't apply when those people argue other books. For example the Jaws of the World Wolf, solved now, but when it came out it was called a psychic shooting attack which means it has to have line of sight and can't be fired into assault, but the general opinion was it could shoot anywhere and anything.
If there is anyone out there at GW listening, give us a clarification/rewording on that wargear. In the meantime, I'm going to hit up the adepticon guys to review it and give the wording clarification. As well as deploying it out of a Raider that hasn't moved.
So here's a quick review of the one line that screws the whole thing up. "It may be activated by the model carrying it in the shooting phase, instead of moving or shooting that turn." Combine the wording with the fact that old fleet of foot indicates that you can move in the shooting phase and it causes confusion.
Since that one sentence uses phase and turn, with phase coming first, you read it as 'in the shooting phase, instead of moving or shooting', it's common for GW to mess up terminoligy like phase and turn, especially in the old books. However, the other way of looking at it is that the comma is seperating the thoughs, so we could re-arrange it as 'Instead of moving or shooting that turn, it may be activated in the shooting phase'.
The conventional wisdom has been, because it says turn, you have to leave your unit standing out in the open. When I read it, I read it as activated in the shooting phase instead of moving or shooting, but I understand the conventional wisdom. But where I get irked is that same logic doesn't apply when those people argue other books. For example the Jaws of the World Wolf, solved now, but when it came out it was called a psychic shooting attack which means it has to have line of sight and can't be fired into assault, but the general opinion was it could shoot anywhere and anything.
If there is anyone out there at GW listening, give us a clarification/rewording on that wargear. In the meantime, I'm going to hit up the adepticon guys to review it and give the wording clarification. As well as deploying it out of a Raider that hasn't moved.
I haven't played DE in so long, I forgot they get webways, nasty horrible things. How are you supposed to gunline something that appear right in front of you.
ReplyDeleteOn the moving thing, perhaps GW were planning for the future, you can run in the shooting phase now, actually nah, it's GW ;-)
I'm sure the plan for the future was 'nobodies gonna play them anyhow, skipped the proof reader and save a few bucks'
ReplyDeleteBut the wording thing is about par for the 3rd edition books. Lots of little things like this.
I was tempted to play dark eldar at one point, but I think I am going to wait to they finally get thier new codex!
ReplyDeleteCould be a long wait, but I'll probably be one of the first in line when they do.
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